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Compelling 'accomplishment stories' key to successful job interview

As spring semester finals wrap up, the majority of our 1Ls are preparing for clerkships with law firms, externships with state government agencies and nonprofits, clinical experiences such as the Judicial Clerkship Clinic, and summer classes. Last year, 80 percent of 1Ls reported summer employment and/or enrollment in summer school, a law school clinic or a study abroad program, and this year's numbers are shaping up to be similar.

Although it's a little hard to believe, the fall recruiting period for jobs to begin in the summer of 2012 begins on July 1, when rising 2Ls and 3Ls will get their first look at the list of employers that have registered to interview over a six-week period. The deadline to submit a resume for consideration by the Week 1 employers is Monday, Aug. 8, and the first week of fall OCI will take place from Aug. 22-26.

As we've blogged about previously, the first step to a successful fall OCI period is to distill your previous academic accomplishments and work experience into coherent "accomplishment stories."

In the current hiring climate, employers are relying with increasing frequency on behavioral interviewing questions designed to evaluate a candidate's competencies. As described in an article in this month's National Association for Law Placement Bulletin, "[i]n a competency-based behavioral interview, employers work to discover whether candidates possess desired skills and qualities by asking them to discuss a past situation and their response to that situation. Questions beginning with 'Tell us about a time when' are common in behavioral interviewing."

Questions of this type are easy to answer provided the interviewee has thought about his or her academic and work experiences, can recall specific details, and can wrap up the story in a logical and compelling manner. Anecdotes that relate past accomplishments to the potential for future success with that employer are the secret to effective interviewing.

For several years, we've been suggesting the STAR method of responding to behavioral interviewing questions. The method, which is recommended by many interviewing experts, is referenced again in this month's NALP Bulletin article, "Behavioral Interviews — Preparing Students to Tell Their Stories."

The STAR method is simple. In response to a question, walk an interviewer through these steps:

  • Situation or Task: Describe the situation you were in or the task you needed to accomplish. Don't rely on a general description of a past event; be specific. Pepper your description with memorable details.
  • Action(s) you took: What steps did you take to address the situation? What tasks were necessary?
  • Results you achieved: How was the issue resolved? What happened and what did you learn?

An effective "accomplishment story" holds the interviewer's attention and keeps the focus on you, the interviewee.It also provides an interviewee a memorable way to organize and deliver his or her thoughts.

I enjoyed how the NALP Bulletin article, written by Amanda DiPolvere of Penn State Law and Gwen Tolbert of Rutgers Law-Camden, matched specific competencies/traits/skills sought by legal employers to sample behavioral interview questions. For example:

Competencies/Traits/
Skills Sought
Sample Behavioral Question
Taking ownership of assignments.Talk about a time when you made a mistake and how you recovered from it.
Team orientationDiscuss a situation in which you were on a team and disagreed with the team leader.
Clear communicationTell us about a time when someone misunderstood your instructions.
Attention to detailDescribe a situation in which a detail you thought to be unimportant turned out to be very important.
Ability to handle stressTell us about a stressful situation you have encountered and how you coped with it.

To formulate impressive responses to questions like these, you must first appreciate that you’re likely to be asked to recall the specifics of your experiences (both academic and work related) during an interview.

Approach your summer classes, clinic or work experience with that in mind, and pay attention to details that might enliven your interview responses. Jot down ideas for accomplishment stories this summer, and you’ll be better prepared to excel in interviews this fall and beyond.

Todd Rogers, Assistant Dean for Career Services

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Can playing video games land you a law firm job?

Someday, you may be playing video games to compete for jobs. A Dutch law firm is already doing it!


Dutch law firm Houthoff Buruma teamed up with Ranj Serious Games to create "The Game" to help the firm find the most talented students, based on the premise that grades often don't fully reflect the talent and future success of a law student.

Players of "The Game" — graduating law students in the Netherlands — are given a complex legal scenario wherein they must represent a Chinese state-owned company as it plans to take over a Dutch family company. The players are split into teams of up to five people, given 90 minutes to confront problems as they arise and persuade enough shareholders to sell their shares. The fast-paced legal challenge ascertains how lawyers cope with stressful situations, bombarding them with CNN news flashes, video and text chats, film clips, e-mails and more than 100 fictional documents. Once the game ends, the results are displayed, and each team is given the opportunity to justify its solutions.

I believe something along these lines would work wonderfully in an Advanced Legal Research course. What are your thoughts?

W. Blake Wilson, Instructional & Research Services Librarian

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Career services programming keeps students at the top of their game

The KU Law Office of Career Services prides itself on providing a wide variety of career-related programming and resources, and in being accessible, welcoming and helpful to students and graduates, regardless of their career aspirations.

In the fall of 2009, the office sponsored 26 lunchtime programs, ranging from resume and cover letter-writing and interviewing skills, to practice area-specific panels.

This fall, we sponsored another 22 programs and produced two webinars: one about interviewing tips and techniques and another detailing strategies to find a job beyond the on-campus interview process.

The series of fall 2010 presentations included programs about the state of the legal economy; panels focusing on criminal law, federal government practice, law practice in small towns, judicial clerkships, and alternative careers for lawyers; and instructional hours on resumes, cover letters, networking and positive psychology.

In collaboration with the Office of Student Affairs, we debuted the KU Law Student Wellness Series in the fall of 2009. The purpose of the series is to encourage professional behavior and teach practical skills essential to navigating the pitfalls of life as a law student and new attorney. In both the fall of 2009 and 2010, we featured programs about how to cope with law school anxiety, how to better manage finances while in law school and after graduation, and business etiquette.

Students also seek career-related information through individual appointments. From July 1, 2009, through June 30, 2010, Todd Rogers had 282 appointments with students, while Karen Hester had an additional 254. Between the two of us, we scheduled more appointments from July 1, 2010, through Dec. 31, 2010, than in any of the previous seven falls.

I should also mention our 1L Mentor Program, through which we matched 73 1Ls with attorney mentors this fall, and our annual Legal Career Options Day, generously co-sponsored by the Kansas Bar Association, Johnson County Bar Association and Wichita Bar Association.

More information about these important networking programs, and pictures from the Mentor Reception and the 8th Annual Career Options Day, can be found on our website.

Todd Rogers, Assistant Dean for Career Services

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Practical matters: clinic participation and legal experience

I’ll admit it: Walking into law school, I was pretty sure that every lawsuitconsisted of attending depositions with former exercise instructors anddiscovering crucial evidence by examining an individual's shoes ("LegallyBlonde," anyone?). I showed up for the first day of orientation in full-blownElle Woods mode, despite a shocking lack of pink in my outfit. Then Lawyeringstarted.

By the end of orientation, I was introduced to the wonders of Westlaw andLexisNexis and became intimately familiar with the library. By the end of 1Lyear, I had written memos and briefs and spent too many hours highlightingcases. Somewhere along the way, I realized that being a lawyer had a lot to dowith writing and less to do with my knowledge of this season’s flats. Trust mewhen I tell you that legal writing is a whole new mountain to climb. If youthought "thinking like a lawyer" was a tough transition, writing like a lawyercan be even more difficult.

While Lawyering provides a great foundation for building legal writing skills, there are some things you cannot master in a classroom. Among other things, I choseto participate in a clinic to strengthen my legal research and writing ability.KU’s clinics provide students the opportunity to get out in the field andpractice law under the guidance of a supervising attorney. We have our ownclients and often carry a case from beginning to end, counseling clients ontheir options and drafting many of the necessary documents to proceedsuccessfully through a lawsuit. As a result, I have written supporting briefs,petitions and other documents that are ultimately filed with my clients’ cases.Being a great legal writer takes on a new level of importance when there’s aclient relying on you.

The clinic has also been a great way to experience what practicing a certain areaof law is like. KU offers 12 different clinics in differing practice areas, soregardless of what field interests you, you’ll likely have an opportunity to engagein practice before you graduate. Additionally, it never hurts to build morelegal experience for your resume. KU’s clinics are a great way to step outsidethe classroom and learn what practicing law is like … preferably in a pair ofreally cute shoes.

Amanda Ferguson, 2L

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A response to ‘Is law school a losing game?’

On Jan. 8 the New York Times published a much-discussed article called “Is Law School a Losing Game?” The article’s author, David Segal, is critical of a law school system that he alleges overstates employment prospects to prospective students, all in the name of packing classrooms with students who pay high tuitions.

The Lawrence Journal-World linked to the article on Jan. 13 and asked about the employment picture at KU Law.

Let me partially answer that query by referring to two specific criticisms leveled by the article and then explaining how KU Law does business.

  • Segal refers to the “Wonderland” of law school employment statistics and states that many schools — even some outside the top 40 — list the median starting salary of their graduates in the private sector at $160,000.

    As a prospective law student, it’s imperative to carefully scrutinize employment stats. For example, there’s a significant difference between private practice and public sector salaries. Statistics that blend private practice and public interest salaries together are relatively meaningless.

    So are private practice salary stats based on only a small percentage of graduates. It’s likely that schools outside the top 40 listing a median starting salary of $160,000 for grads in the private sector have not accounted for even a majority of those graduates when calculating the average.

    For the class of 2009, 79 KU Law students reported a private practice salary. This represented 80.6 percent of 2009 graduates employed in private practice. The average salary was $72,660.

  • Segal also alleges that schools massage employment data to produce numbers that are inciting to prospective students and palatable to current student and alumni. In doing so, he notes that “a school with the guts to report, say, a 4 percent drop in postgraduate employment would plunge in the rankings, leaving the dean to explain a lot of convoluted math, and the case for unvarnished truth, to a bunch of angry students and alums.”

    The decision to come to law school is an important one that ultimately involves three years of intense study and, in some cases, significant borrowing. Prospective law students should be afforded every opportunity to review accurate employment data. The following information for graduation years 2006-09 is available on the KU Law website.

    Graduation Year% Employed at Graduation% Employed Nine Months after GraduationUS News Ranking
    200963.289.0TBD
    (April 2011)
    200869.493.667
    (April 2010)
    200767.195.565
    (April 2009)
    200665.994.773
    (April 2008)

    In the midst of the recession, our numbers took a hit, but we were upfront about reporting the losses accurately.

  • One statistic not touched upon in the article, and not often discussed by prospective students, is the percentage of students employed in “bar admission required” positions.

    Most law students enroll with the goal of practicing law after graduation. By graduation, some have decided to pursue less traditional, “J.D.-preferred” or other professional positions that do not require the passage of a bar exam.

    During the recession, we’ve seen the percentage of recent grads employed in “bar admission required” positions decline as an increased number of graduates who do want to practice law have been unable to secure traditional legal positions and have been forced to look elsewhere.

    Here’s the percentage of KU Law graduates from the last eight classes who were employed in “bar admission required” positions nine months after graduation:

    KU Law ClassRatioPercentage
    2002117/16272.2%
    200396/14665.8%
    2004133/18472.3%
    2005124/17969.3%
    2006117/17068.8%
    2007115/15773.2%
    2008120/16174.5%
    200997/15662.2%

    (Note: Other categories are J.D. Preferred, Other Professional, Non-Professional, Pursuing Degree FT, Unemployed-Seeking and Unemployed-Not Seeking.)

The recession has certainly put a damper on graduates securing traditional legal positions, and prospective students deserve access to this information from all schools they’re considering.

Todd Rogers, Assistant Dean for Career Services

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Islamic Law Students Association supports Muslim students, aims to improve understanding of Islam

The Islamic Law Students Association (ILSA) was created in 2007 with dual purposes in mind. On one hand, ILSA provides a networking platform for Muslim students at Green Hall to help and interact with each other. Considering that ILSA includes students from varying nationalities and academic backgrounds, it offers a wealth of experience among its members and the opportunity for all Muslim students to utilize it. In this regard, ILSA strives to aid Muslim students not just with career development, social life and academic and religious issues.

On the other hand, ILSA seeks to further diversify and improve all students’ understanding about Islam and Islamic law. In this vein, ILSA does not limit itself to Muslim students but invites all KU students to discuss any concerns or questions they have about Islam and Shari'a. ILSA hopes that with open discussion it can distance Islam’s image at the law school from terrorists and fundamentalists, provide a more receptive atmosphere for Muslim and non-Muslims alike, and explore the future of law and economics in Islam.

Elena Delkhah, ILSA President
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